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Surviving the Guatemala Reunion: Morals and Lies
« on: Dec 12^th, 2005, 1:38pm »

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Surviving the Guatemala Reunion: Morals and Lies
by David Bloomberg -- 12/12/2005
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The finale has ended, and all 18 players return for the reunion. The big topics are covered: Rafes decision and morals, Judds lies, Garys NFL days, the targets on Bobby Jon and Stephenie, and more. It seems everybody got in a few words. What did they all have to say?

The Survivor: Guatemala finale is over, and Danni has won. For all the details, check out my recap. Now its time to see whos still mad and who has something to say.

We begin with another look at the move that really turned the game around for Danni (and earned her a Reality TV Hall of Fame Moment) buying the clue for the immunity challenge and using it properly to win. Probst notes that since she bought the clue for $200 and won a million, it was a 500,000% return on investment.

She says it was definitely the best move for her in the game. She says shes fine at physical stuff, but not so much at puzzles. Probst wants to know what the best move she made was, aside from the clue. She says probably at the end, taking Stephenie, because Rafe was very well liked. Shes still dealing with having to do that since hes an awesome guy, but she was there to win the game.

Probst moves to Rafe, noting that he had a final two deal what made him give it up? He was influenced by Stephenies crying a bit, but he really wanted Danni to make a decision that, looking back years from now, she could be happy with. He thought it would be to take him, but its okay that it wasnt.

At some point, Danni told Probst that once she realized it was going to be about endurance, with all of them leaning on the poles, she thought there was no way she could take Rafe. She expands on this by saying she just kept thinking about her family. She skips back to the earlier question about taking Stephenie to the final two and says if she did take Rafe and lost, her family would have killed her. She adds that she likens herself to the Stealth Bomber, in that nobody knew she was coming until after she dropped the bombs on them.

Probst notes to Gary that he didnt really see her playing much himself was she underrated? Gary says no, she just had a smile on her face, she was honest, she worked hard, and it got her to the end.

Back to Rafe, Probst says it seemed along the way, Rafe was morally conflicted many times. Were moral decisions the hardest part of the game for him? He says definitely. He was proud of his decisions throughout and wanted it to stay that way throughout.

Was he surprised at how well he did in challenges? He says nobody really expected him to do well, and he used that to his advantage.

Moving to Lydia, Probst says he asked her every Tribal Council how she was still in the game, and hes asking again how she lasted so long. Lydia says she came in with a strategy to be nurturing and also to work as a provider food, water, clean camp, smile, and motivation. Probst says her attitude was remarkable in the toughest season theyve done. Day after day, shed have a smile on her face. She says a positive attitude and a good heart will take you far.

Time to discuss the twist of having Bobby Jon and Stephenie return. Coming in, how did it impact Stephenie to know shed have a target on her back? She says it was difficult and knew she had to take a leadership role and make a good alliance. Was she worried because she was the sweetheart in Palau? She knew she had to play harder this time and not just be sweet.

Did she think she could win, given the people she stabbed in the back? Stephenie says she thought she was doing well, but then realized that if she made it to the end, shed lose because she had a second chance. So the best strategy for everybody else was probably to take her to the end.

Was Cindy star-struck by having Stephenie there, given that she said early on that Stephenie was one of the reasons she applied? Cindy says no, she just knew that if Stephenie could do it, so could she.

Gary says hes a big Survivor fan, and Stephenie and Bobby Jon were two of his favorites. He thinks they used it to their advantage, which was smart playing. Probst wants to pull the truth out of Gary, who apparently had previously told Probst that people felt it was cool to be around the two and therefore it affected the game. Gary says theres no doubt that people were asking question after question and looking up to them.

Probst notes that Stephenie set some records. In two seasons, she took part in 46 challenges, winning only 10. On the flip side, she made it through 25 Tribal Councils.

Stephenie had a bond with Judd that seemed very tight, which led to what Probst calls one of the best exit lines ever the one in which he hoped they would all get bitten by a crocodile and then called them scumbags. Judd says he was brutally honest Probst agrees that he was, every single day. He says he was pretty pissed off then, but shes a good person.

Probst asks if hes recognized on the street, since hes a doorman and sees lots of people. Judd says yes, people all the time say hey, thats the big fat dude from Survivor. Is he okay with having been a villain this season? Yup. He has no regrets whatsoever.

Whats the status with Judd and Margaret? Judd says giving the speech and being obnoxious at Tribal Council was just part of his strategy no hard feelings.

Probst says he has to clear up one thing: You did lie in this game. The audience applauds and laughs. Probst notes that even after they outed him for lying, he was voted out and still claimed he hadnt lied! Judd jokingly (I think) says he had partied a bit hard before the lie and implies he maybe didnt quite remember it.

Moving to Bobby Jon, he was one of the toughest guys but he was knocked out by the long trek in the first day. Bobby Jon says it humbled him in more ways than one. Did he come in with a different strategy? He says you have to mash the gas in order for the car to go which apparently means you have to play people, not just work hard.

Probst says Bobby Jon is one of the most authentic and endearing people to have ever played. But sometimes that authenticity explodes, such as to the guy next to him Jamie. Probst says watching the two of them go at it was a bit heated, but always entertaining. We get to relive some of their greatest screaming moments and I still am not sure what Bobby Jon screamed when the two of them were bumping bellies.

Jamie grabs Bobby Jon in a hug and joke-yells at him. He says its good to know there are still some good ol country boys around.

Probst asks Jamie bluntly, Were you really losing your mind out there? That earns a laugh from the audience and from me at home. Jamie says he heard there might be a vote tonight and almost didnt come because he was a little paranoid. Then he starts asking Rafe if he promises not to vote for him. Heh. Jamie says he was definitely losing it a little out there.

The next topic for discussion is Garys identity and Danni recognizing him. How did she know who he was? She says she works in sports radio and is a huge sports fanatic. Plus, she grew up with a dad and brothers who were sports fans and, in particular, Dallas fans and who had pictures of Gary! She first noticed him during casting and thought he looked familiar. Then she ended up at Central Michigan State to see a game, just by coincidence, and there is a virtual shrine to him there.

Gary says he didnt expect anybody to spot him and it shocked him when she did. But he had the alter-ego planned from the beginning.

What was Amys reaction when she found out? She says she wanted to beat him down! Heh. Shes a detective with a major crime unit do people recognize her? She says yes, when she goes to lock up the bad guys, they ask if she was on Survivor and she tells em theyre still under arrest!

Probst wants to acknowledge some changes in appearance, beginning with Amy, who he says looks fantastic. And Judd lost 45 pounds.

But for all the pain and suffering of the show, Probst asks Cindy if its true that she wishes she were still living in the jungles of Guatemala. Yup. Does she know people think shes slightly nuts? Yup. But people who know her know thats her she loved it there. Plus, she lost her job at the zoo to pursue Survivor.

Probst brings up the car issue and then asks Rafe if her giving away the cars would have affected the vote. He says its hard to say for sure because that wasnt the situation. He would think it would have, but if they would have voted her out, she would have lost everything. Now she has a car she can drive to Guatemala!

Speaking of going back to Guatemala, Margaret is going back to do some relief work. She is going back with Brian to lead university students in a relief effort. Probst notes that, also to her credit, they monitored the health of her tribe those first few days through her! Blake hugs her in thanks for taking care of him.

Also regarding Blake, he was described as Golden Boy, etc. But when he described his girlfriend, he went into great detail what was her reaction? He says she laughed because she knows him. But the funny part was that her father called and said he couldnt believe that his daughters breasts got him kicked off Survivor!

Going back to the topic of how difficult it was this season, we see some of the nastier moments. What does Brandon think of when he sees video of himself with open sores and the like? He says its pretty indescribable eleven miles through thick jungle carrying heavy loads. He did a little hiking previously, but nothing like that.

It seemed like Brandon had moral compass difficulties, like Rafe would he play the game differently if he had to do it again? Nope, hed do it about the same. He wanted to play a strong, clean game, but it brings out a lot of ugliness and its a really mean game. He tried to bring some light into it.

Remember Jim? He had a freak accident and was voted out first does he feel like he got the whole Survivor experience? Absolutely. The arm is doing well, he says, and, Im going to Disneyland!

Moving down the line a bit, Probst says when they met Brian, he talked about being the greatest student of the game and nobody could outfox him. He did know the game and strategy, so what didnt he anticipate? Brian says luck plays a huge role in the game. So the question came up about who had the most tribe pride he was chosen and got screwed by being put in the minority. So you really need to go into the game ready to play hard and wanting to win, but also being okay with the luck factor. He admits he might have been better off if hed had better relationships with Gary and Amy, but his game really changed when he was swapped over.

Probst says hes not picking on Brian and was delightful to have on the show because hes well-spoken and could maneuver. After all, he helped get Blake out of the game.

Brooke helped lead her team through the jungle and was labeled as the smart one did that end up hurting her? She says her original tribe appreciated her for being smart, but then the other team said law school girl has to go.

Probst says it looked like the game overwhelmed Brianna right or wrong? Right, it was brutal. She says she still doesnt know what a pick is and she still doesnt care (remember the court ball game). Did she have fun? Yes, she had a great time.

What about Morgan? Probst says it surprised him that she got voted off so early, and she responds that it surprised her too! Was six days enough? No, but she says everything happens for a reason. She never expected herself to do as well as she did physically. She thought she was doing well, but you cant just be nice and win. But she was true to herself and has no regrets.

As Survivor: Guatemala ends, its time to find out about the next one, which has a few twists that will catch the new group of contestants by surprise. Next season, Survivor travels back to the waters of Panama, but there will be a small island of exile, where each week one contestant will be separated from their tribe for days at a time. Strategy will be turned on its head and survival will take on a whole new meaning. Though this island will be a place to be feared, something hidden within its rocky shores may be the key to winning. The 16 new castaways (only 16?) will be divided into tribes in a way never before seen. Its Survivor: Panama, Exile Island.

With that, Survivor: Guatemala is officially over. But that doesnt mean RealityNewsOnlines coverage of it is! Check back in the next couple days for Why Lydia Lost, Why Rafe Lost, Why Stephenie Lost, Why Danni Won, interviews with the final four, and much more!

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Re: Surviving the Guatemala Reunion: Morals and Li
« Reply #1 on: Dec 12^th, 2005, 4:14pm »

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Did anyone else notice how annoying Danni was when she kept playing with her lips? Her lips look really huge now. What is up with that? Kiss

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Re: Surviving the Guatemala Reunion: Morals and Li
« Reply #2 on: Dec 12^th, 2005, 7:41pm »

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on Dec 12^th, 2005, 4:14pm, tattooedbeauty wrote:

Did anyone else notice how annoying Danni was when she kept playing with her lips? Her lips look really huge now. What is up with that? Kiss

Yes, I noticed how she kept doing that! lol I don't think it's annoying though..didn't bother me..lol her lips are big!!!!! hehehe

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Re: Surviving the Guatemala Reunion: Morals and Li
« Reply #3 on: Dec 12^th, 2005, 8:06pm »

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She had way too much make up on in my opinion ! Her, Stephenie and a couple of other girls were really too much made up hahaha.

And is it just me or Jamie was drunk ?

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« Reply #4 on: Dec 12^th, 2005, 8:20pm »

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on Dec 12^th, 2005, 8:06pm, Elsa wrote:

She had way too much make up on in my opinion ! Her, Stephenie and a couple of other girls were really too much made up hahaha.

And is it just me or Jamie was drunk ?

LOL HEHE

Yes! I totally agree, I think they had wayyy too much makeup. IMO, I think they looked better out in Guatemala! lol

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Re: Surviving the Guatemala Reunion: Morals and Li
« Reply #5 on: Dec 12^th, 2005, 9:17pm »

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on Dec 12^th, 2005, 4:14pm, tattooedbeauty wrote:

Did anyone else notice how annoying Danni was when she kept playing with her lips? Her lips look really huge now. What is up with that? Kiss

Probably because she applied too much lipstick on her lips? Grin

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 13^th, 2005, 10:10am »

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I thought Steph and Danni looks much more pretty without those make-up!

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Re: Surviving the Guatemala Reunion: Morals and Li
« Reply #7 on: Dec 13^th, 2005, 7:33pm »

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I thought Steph and Danni looks much more pretty without those make-up!

Totally agree with all of you. Lose the makeup, girls!

However I have to say that we gals think makeup makes us look prettier. They just didn't realize as we do, that we fell in love with them while they were plain Janes in the jungle.

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Have to agree with you! Cheesy

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« Reply #9 on: Dec 15^th, 2005, 2:22am »

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on Dec 12^th, 2005, 8:06pm, Elsa wrote:

She had way too much make up on in my opinion ! Her, Stephenie and a couple of other girls were really too much made up hahaha.

Hate to be awful, but I thought they looked like they'd taken a break from their street corners to attend the finale.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 20^th, 2005, 4:08pm »

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I think Danni's lip thing was a 'nervous' disorder. She probably got a bad case of dry mouth and was trying to wet her teeth and gums. Remember, she was a beauty pageant contestant...they're trained to smile, smile, smile and usually apply vaseline to their teeth to give them that 'wet' shine. She may not be used to being on stage WITHOUT vaselining her teeth! Wink

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