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Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May 24)
« on: Apr 8^th, 2006, 7:39pm »

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No title yet for this episode, lots of specualtion about what it might be... many are thinking "Genesis" to go with the "Exodus" from last season...

some wiseguy added that next year's finale would be called "Deuteronomy"... LOL

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Re: Season Finale (May 24)
« Reply #1 on: Apr 29^th, 2006, 2:42pm »

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"Live Together, Die Alone" - After discovering something odd just offshore, Jack and Sayid come up with a plan to confront "The Others" and hopefully get Walt back. Meanwhile, Eko and Locke come to blows as Locke makes a potentially cataclysmic decision regarding the "button" and the hatch, on the season finale of "Lost," WEDNESDAY, MAY 24 (9:00-11:00 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #2 on: May 22^nd, 2006, 9:23pm »

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After a long boring season, it's time the show had some pizazz to the ending
of season 2! It's a toss up as to which show was more boring the first half of
the season, Desperate Housewives or Lost! Roll Eyes

I'm ready for excitement! Bring it on..............

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #3 on: May 22^nd, 2006, 9:28pm »

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We're having a LOST party - all my LOST buddies at school. Food and drink and friends and LOST... what a great way to spend the evening. And Thursday is a workday for us (no kids) so we can enjoy and not have to worry about work the next day.. Cheesy

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #4 on: May 24^th, 2006, 3:35pm »

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i cant wait for tonight its gonna be sick :rifle: :cheer:

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #5 on: May 24^th, 2006, 8:20pm »

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OMG... so many things, so little time (have to go watch Hugh on Jimmy Kimmel)

First of all, awesome finale... lots of things I didn't see coming... never even thought about Michael taking them to the a different place than the beach... and what's up with the four toed foot?? My friend and I who watched together both immediately thought "They're on the planet of the apes".. LOL.

Was glad to see Desmond back... and shock of shocks... Kelvin!! Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.. but isn't that the same guy who was in the army and turned Sayid into a "torturer?"

My daughter caught the "David" thing with Libby... David, i.e. Dave?? Could Hurley's imaginary friend be Libby's hubby? Is that why she was stalking Hurley (as I believe she was??)

I can't wait til tomorrow to download this and watch again.. so many things I want to see...

And.. don't miss the newest website clue in the Lost Experience.. www.hansocareers.com - five job postings and an email address to contact.. :-D

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #6 on: May 25^th, 2006, 3:51am »

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Ok I admit I watched this very late last night and was falling asleep during the last half hour

But...

Foot thing, weird
How long will it take Sayid to realize that Jack et al aren't coming?
What's with the stonehenge?
Is Henry "him"?
Will Walt and Michael make it home safely?
What did Henry mean when he said "We got more than we bargained for when Walt joined us"
Is there a timeline here? That would be great..like how long before she went into the hospital did Libby mee Desmond? Did she enter the hospital because of her husband, or because she was a pathological liar? (which has been said on boards but never the show)

So many questions!!

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #7 on: May 25^th, 2006, 5:20am »

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My daughter doesn't think that Walt is the "real" Walt... clone, twin, something, but it's not Walt. Walt would have said something.. first off he'd have yelled "DAD" the minute he saw him... not just sat there looking all glassy eyed and smiling. The real Walt would have also said something about leaving their friends behind.. not just smiled and hugged him and sat back down... it was weird... the thing I noticed was the weird look on his face after they were leaving... waiting for the epi on iTunes so I can download and rewatch..

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #8 on: May 25^th, 2006, 6:16am »

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For those who may have missed the episode ......

Thursday, May 25, 2006; Posted: 7:55 a.m. EDT (11:55 GMT)

Editor's Note: The following story contains spoilers. If you'd rather not know what happened on "Lost," please stop reading now.

Go no further if you don't want to know what happened (or may have happened).

Roughly two months -- or, more accurately, two TV seasons in real time -- after Oceanic Flight 815 crash-landed by this lost tropical island, viewers learned:

The sailboat seen at the end of last week's episode belonged to Desmond, who had been found at the start of this season in the hatch when the castaways first made their entrance. Grateful to hand to someone else the weird computer-entry task, Desmond ran away -- and set sail in the boat he had arrived in years earlier. But after 2 1/2 weeks on the water, he had gotten nowhere. "There's no outside world, there's no escape," he wailed, drunk and despondent, when the castaways retrieved him from the sailboat just offshore.

What may have caused the jetliner's crash: an excessive buildup of electromagnetic energy that Desmond, as the hatch's occupant at the time, failed to properly diffuse.

Why that numbered sequence (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) needed to be entered on the keyboard every 108 minutes: To diffuse the powerful buildup safely. So the audience learned that the button really did need to be pushed, and wasn't a meaningless exercise after all, which became a season-long issue that on the finale fueled a raging argument between Locke (the disillusioned former believer) and Mr. Eko (the fiercely loyal convert to the button-pushing cause). After an explosion in the hatch, they were both unaccounted for.

Finally, Michael seemed to prove without a doubt that he would sell out his friends to save himself and his son, Walt, who was kidnapped at the end of last season by the Others.

After having been brainwashed by the Others, Michael had gunned down fellow castaways Ana Lucia and Libby a few episodes ago to facilitate the escape of Henry, an "Other" from across the island whom the castaways had been holding captive.

Then -- despite the best efforts of Jack and Sayid to outmaneuver him -- Michael made good on his plan to deliver Jack, Hurley, Sawyer and Kate to the Others in exchange for getting Walt back.

Hurley was released by the Others with an order to return to camp and warn the rest of the castaways against retaliating.

"But what about my friends?" Hurley protested.

"Your friends are coming home with us," said Henry, the Other who had been held in the hatch.

While Jack, Sawyer and Kate looked on, bound and gagged, Michael and Walt were given a motor boat to make their safe escape.

"My hunch is, you won't say a word to anybody," Henry told Michael as he sent him on his way, "because if you do, people will find out what you did to get your son back."

"Who ARE you people?" asked Michael, voicing the question that has plagued "Lost" viewers all season.

"We're the good guys, Michael," Henry said simply.

Disinclined to argue and at last reunited with Walt, Michael piloted his boat to apparent freedom.

Hoods were pulled over the heads of Jack, Sawyer and Kate. Their safety while in the Others' custody was assured by Henry. But viewers will have to wait until fall to see.

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #9 on: May 25^th, 2006, 12:28pm »

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I've read several comment on the Fuselage by folks who missed the last few minutes.. thought the "hood pulling thing" was the end... but there was another scene after with two guys in a "frozen location" (some said Russia, others said Antarctica) watching for electromagnetic anomalies. When Locke didn't push the button and the magnet wasn't diffused again, they got a reading on their machines... and called their benefactor to let her know that it had occured again. The benefactor was Penelope Widmore, Desmonds girlfriend, the one in the picture in the hatch...

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #10 on: May 25^th, 2006, 2:21pm »

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Yes, I saw that. I just pulled the recap over from another site. I was totally blown away by the lat 90 seconds.

Who is Penny really? Is the snowbound station the job posting in Hansocareers.com?

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #11 on: May 25^th, 2006, 2:47pm »

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I was wondering about what the russians said to her

"Its him" or something right? Is she looking for desmond? does she know he's on that island?? how?

I almost cried though, he's dead (probably) and she's still got the picture of them on her nightstand Sad

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #12 on: May 25^th, 2006, 5:09pm »

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After a long very boooring season, it concludes with a longer booooring finale!
I know, I know all you dyed -in-the-wool "Lost" fans will get after me but,
it takes allkinds of show........this one just does zilch for me!

I'm happy that all of you enjoyed it! Grin

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #13 on: May 25^th, 2006, 9:56pm »

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on May 25^th, 2006, 2:47pm, AoM wrote:

she has to know he was lost during he race..her father was sponsoring it.I think widmore is affiliated with hanso and penny knows the info about the island, but not where it is. yet if she watches for an electromagnetic anomoly, she might be able to find it.

also, i thot russian also, but i've also heard they were speaking portuguese...

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #14 on: May 27^th, 2006, 6:05am »

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In the podcast, they said the men were speaking Portugese....Brazilian Portugese. ( A clue into where they are?) We know they are somewhere cold, which could be the poles, or anywhere close, or on a mountain.

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #15 on: May 27^th, 2006, 6:52am »

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was it just me or did anyone notice that michael didnt look good. b/c he was throwen' up out side the hatch the episode before the season finale, and wen they set up camp in the middle of the night goin' to the others camp. i think that the others might have gave him the "sickness"

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #16 on: May 27^th, 2006, 7:34am »

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I've been trying to remember a reason for the black mark on Michael's head. I almost looked like a tatoo. Anyone?

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #17 on: May 27^th, 2006, 9:45am »

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I thought the throwing up was a reaction to having just murdered two people... I mean I would think that could make you a little queasy...

As for the mark on his head.. I noticed it too, but don't remember him getting hit anytime... unless maybe it was when Alex hit him with the gun just after the encounter with "Zeke/Tom" and Jack, Locke and Sawyer...

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #18 on: May 27^th, 2006, 9:46am »

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From NYTimes:
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"On last night's "Lost," which closed the island mystery's second season on ABC, a crucial plot development hinged on a copy of the Charles Dickens novel "Our Mutual Friend." (Readers who do not wish to know the particulars of the finale should stop here.)

In a flashback Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick), the character "Lost" viewers know as the man who lived down the hatch, tells a prison guard that he carries around "Our Mutual Friend" because he means for it to be the last book he reads before dying. Later, on the island, when Desmond thinks that death is near, he finds a letter inside the book from the love of his life, Penny. Her letter inspires him to go on an apparent suicide mission to save the island and, the episode implied, possibly the world.

During a visit to New York City last week, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, the executive producers who run "Lost," said they got the idea of the deathbed reading of "Our Mutual Friend" from an interview with the writer John Irving in which he said he was saving it for last. But besides paying tribute to Mr. Irving, they were eager to refer to Dickens for their own narrative purposes.

"He was writing chapter by chapter for newspapers," Mr. Cuse said. "We often think: 'How much did Dickens know when he was writing his stories? How much of it was planned out, and how much was flying by the seat of his pants because he had to get another chapter in?' " He paused, then said with a laugh, "We can respect what he went through."

More remarkable than the size of "Lost's" audience, which averages 15.3 million viewers, is its devotion. The show has inspired endless Internet chatter and solicits participation by viewers, who play its popular multiplatorm game, the Lost Experience. When Mr. Cuse and Mr. Lindelof began the writing process for this year's closing episode, they knew that a large number of fervent fans were bitterly disappointed in the Season 1 finale. The big twist in that episode was the kidnapping of 10-year-old Walt (Malcolm David Kelley) by the island's sinister inhabitants, known as the Others, who lived there before the plane crash that began the show. The writers had worked hard to keep Walt's abduction a secret from Internet spoiler sites, nicknaming the scene "the bagel" so as not to let its contents casually slip. (This year's shocker was dubbed "the challah.")

That genuinely surprising turn did not end the Season 1 finale however. Instead, in its final moments, the mystical Locke (Terry O'Quinn) and the practical Jack (Matthew Fox) stared down into a mysterious hatch Locke had found earlier in the season and had been trying to open. But fans were annoyed: what could possibly be down the hatch that would be worth a four-month wait?

When that finale was broadcast, Mr. Lindelof was in Hawaii about to be married. "We felt everybody was satisfied and psyched," he said. "It never occurred to us that the backlash was going to begin."

Mr. Cuse said: "There started to be Internet chatter. We take that feedback to heart. By the time August rolled around, the spin on it was everybody's frustrated that we didn't go into the hatch."

The Season 2 premiere tried to remedy that frustration immediately. In the hatch was Desmond, who had been stranded on the island three years earlier. There were also plentiful provisions, retro furniture and, most important, a button that needed to be pushed every 108 minutes to dispel a powerful electromagnetic charge that could lead to catastrophic consequences.

When talking about the construction of "Lost," Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse often refer to the Harry Potter books. They want each season, like each book in J. K. Rowling's series, to pose questions and answer them while at the same time maintaining a larger mystery that holds the audience. "This season's story was about the hatch," Mr. Cuse said. "We were very conscious of trying to make the end of the season more satisfying than last year. We wanted to answer a lot of questions."

Last night's episode solved two significant "Lost" puzzles, which turned out to be related. What would happen when the button wasn't pushed? (There was a huge explosion, and if Desmond had not activated a backup system, Mr. Cuse said, "It might have led to, ultimately, sucking everything on earth into itself.") And what crashed the castaways' plane? (It was a casualty of the only other instance when the button was not pushed on time.)

Because they don't know how long the show will run, Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse have to pace its revelations. "If you answer too many questions, the audience doesn't have anything to care about on the show anymore," Mr. Cuse said. "We had to end the show with a powerful mystery that suggested what the show was going to be about next year and would leave the audience curious about where we're going."

Ratings suffered as the season progressed. In response to complaints from both viewers and the show's creators, next season ABC will run the show in two uninterrupted segments, without reruns that stop its flow. But its biggest problem was the return of Fox's "American Idol" in January at the same time on Wednesday nights. Before then, original episodes of "Lost" delivered 21.5 million viewers; after, they brought in 16.5 million (and repeats fared poorly all season).

As for next season, the scene that Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse called "the challah" offered a preview. In the final minutes of last night's episode, the action on the island has ended, but in a coda that took place in unfamiliar settings, Penny, Desmond's wealthy, long-lost girlfriend, was told, "I think we found it." The implication viewers were left with was that the explosion on the island finally made it visible, at least temporarily, to someone desperately looking for it.

Will a rescue effort be a part of Season 3? Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse would not say but allowed that if this season was about the hatch, next season will be about the Others, as led by the oblique Henry Gale (played by Michael Emerson, who will join the regular cast). Mr. Cuse listed what viewers will learn about the Others by this time next year: "Who are these people? How many of them are there? What is their history? What are they trying to accomplish?"

Beyond serving as a teaser, the finale's last minutes were incredibly important to the larger story, Mr. Lindelof said, particularly since this was the first time in 49 hours of the show that "Lost" went off the island in the present, rather than in a flashback. "It's time to actually blow up several theories of the show," he said. "People who believe that they're in purgatory or that they're subjects of an experiment are going to start reassessing those theories based on the fact that we are literally showing you the outside world."

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #19 on: May 27^th, 2006, 4:47pm »

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on May 27^th, 2006, 6:05am, Pocket wrote:

And one of the guy looks like Jack.

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #20 on: May 27^th, 2006, 6:26pm »

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Not Jack... it's a different actor...

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #21 on: May 28^th, 2006, 4:53am »

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i vwatched thats scene in the junglre again wen michael said he was getting firewood to jack they showed his hand and it looked like the same thing that he had on his head

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #22 on: Jun 3^rd, 2006, 4:12pm »

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supposedly they're wounds from his time with the Others/Hostiles... the wound on his head from Alex hitting him with the gun... the ones on his wrists from the ropes he was tied with in the when he saw Walt.

Also, there's speculation that the wounds are getting worse rather than better (the sickness??), but to me they look the same...

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Re: Season Finale - Live Together, Die Alone (May
« Reply #23 on: Sep 10^th, 2006, 11:55pm »

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The season finale will air again on September 25, if anyone wants to watch to refresh their memory (and doesn't already have the DVD's... LOL).

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